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March 25, 2008

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Hey Dana, I liked the RH piece a lot. I lost faith in the Clinton campaign when it doubted Obama's pro-choice cred in New Hampshire, and I'm glad you're implicitly calling them out on it.

Dana,
I think you really should have done some more research on the RH Reality Check piece before writing it.

If you had read the Illinois BAIPA, you would have quickly realized the legislation could have never banned partial-birth abortion because the legislation clearly notes that the child would need to be "completely" expelled to be given rights. Fetuses whom are killed when they partially removed from the mother aren't completely expelled.

Writing a piece about legislation without ever reading the legislation (especially when the text of the legislation is like a page long) is pretty sloppy.

The federal BAIPA passed the U.S. House by something like 380-15 and the Senate by a voice vote. If it banned partial-birth abortion, why didn't the pro-choicers put up more of a fight?

JivinJ, I most certainly did read the text of the legislation. I never said BAIPA would make dilation and extraction illegal, I said it "targeted" it for vilification, which it certainly does do.

Dana,
How did the BAIPA target partial-birth abortion for vilification? The text of the legislation clearly says "completely expulsed." Yet fetuses killed by partial-birth abortion aren't completely expulsed, they're only partially expulsed. In reality, the BAIPA targeted the practice of using an induction abortion technique coupled with leaving children who survive their early birth to die. If you had done the slightest research, you would have known this. BAIPAs only started popping up in the early 2000's while PBA legislation has been around since the mid-90's.

Did the federal BAIPA (which passed with the support of numerous pro-choicers in favor of PBA) also target PBA for vilification? Did you read that legislation as well?

You provide no real evidence or arguments for any of your claims. If you actually read the text of the legislation (which you conveniently didn't link to) I have trouble believing you're dumb enough to think it had anything to do with partial-birth abortion.

On the other hand, in your post you act like there are only two kind of late term abortion techniques. Are you really that ignorant? Do pro-choicers really know that little about the "right" they so fervently defend?

Obama is probably the most pro-choice and even pro-infanticide candidates that the Democrats could have possibly chosen.

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